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if UO beats USC & we were to lose to USC, we'd lose the 3-way tiebreaker. (long).....
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Posted on: 10-26-2009.
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please see Rose Bowl tiebreaker link below for reference. i pasted in the tiebreaker rules below as well.
your scenario (as i understand it):
Oregon beats USC
Arizona beats Wazzu, Cal, Oregon, ASu
Oregon loses to us and another team
USC beats Arizona.
in your scenario, there would be a 3-way tie between Arizona, USC, and Oregon. in a 3-way tie, the first tiebreaker is the record vs the other tied teams. in your scenario, the teams would still be tied after the first tiebreak (USC 1-1, Arizona 1-1, Oregon 1-1 with Oregon beating USC and USC beating us). next, we would goto the record against the next best team(s) in the league. we'd likely start with teams like Cal, Oregon State, Stanford and end with Wazzu.
b.2) If more than two teams are still tied after the process above is completed, each remaining tied team's record against the team occupying the highest position in the final regular season standings shall be compared, with the procedure continuing down through the standings until one team gains an advantage.
If at any point in the process the multiple-team tie is reduced to two teams, the two-team tie-breaking procedure shall be applied.
in this next tiebreak, both Arizona and USC lost to Washington, who would sit near the bottom of the standings. given that Oregon loses another game (beyond the loss to us), they would likely have lost to either Stanford or OSU, which would probably sit higher in the conference standings than Washington. thus, Oregon would most likely be eliminated first in the 3-way tiebreak. after Oregon is eliminated, it goes back to a 2-way tiebreaker that of course favors USC since we have assumed that they beat us.
so, even if Oregon were to beat USC and Oregon loses another game beyond our game with them, we would still have to win all our games to get to the Rose Bowl. i've looked at our situation and believe that the only scneario where we can absorb another loss (to either Wazzu, Cal, or ASu) and still make the RB involves USC beating Oregon.
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a. Two-Team Tie.
The winner of the game between the two teams shall be the representative.
b. Multiple-Team Ties.
(1) When three or more teams are tied in Conference play, if one has defeated all others, it shall be the Rose Bowl representative. If that is not the case, a comparison of the tied teams' records against the other tied teams shall be made and the team having the best record against the other tied teams shall be the Rose Bowl representative. If two or more teams are still tied after this comparison, the appropriate two-team or multiple-team tie-breaking procedures shall be repeated among those teams still under consideration.
(2) If more than two teams are still tied after the process above is completed, each remaining tied team's record against the team occupying the highest position in the final regular season standings shall be compared, with the procedure continuing down through the standings until one team gains an advantage.
When arriving at another group of tied teams while comparing records, each team's collective record against the tied teams as a group shall be used.
If at any point in the process the multiple-team tie is reduced to two teams, the two-team tie-breaking procedure shall be applied.
If more than two teams are still tied after comparing their records all the way through the Conference standings, the team among the tied teams with the highest ranking in the final BCS standings shall be the Rose Bowl representative.
If a tie remains, the teams most recently earning Rose Bowl or Bowl Championship Series automatic selection shall be eliminated.
http://www.pac-10.org/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/102802aai.html
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